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	<title>Comments on: Yes, but not in the way you&#8217;re thinking&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Nina</title>
		<link>http://clamrampant.stblogs.com/2008/05/30/yes-but-not-in-the-way-youre-thinking/#comment-5814</link>
		<dc:creator>Nina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 09:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kasia,
Your point number two is the key to the whole thing.  These people are power-hungry, which in and of itself should be a clue we wouldn't want them to be our sheperds, and they think as you say that the priesthood will give that to them.  This is always my comeback when I meet people who think this female ordination is must: Why?  And if the answer is about power, patriarchy and power-sharing, I just tell people that I am glad they are not in charge then.  Having said that. many of these people really think they have been wronged somehow by parents or the church etc.  If you can find it, Patricia Friesen, one of the priestesses, has her biography/autobiography somewhere on the web.  It is a pretty telling story of someone who should really have psychotherapy rather than be a "priest."  So I tend to feel a lot of pity for these women and nothing but disdain for the men who "ordain" them.  What a lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kasia,<br />
Your point number two is the key to the whole thing.  These people are power-hungry, which in and of itself should be a clue we wouldn&#8217;t want them to be our sheperds, and they think as you say that the priesthood will give that to them.  This is always my comeback when I meet people who think this female ordination is must: Why?  And if the answer is about power, patriarchy and power-sharing, I just tell people that I am glad they are not in charge then.  Having said that. many of these people really think they have been wronged somehow by parents or the church etc.  If you can find it, Patricia Friesen, one of the priestesses, has her biography/autobiography somewhere on the web.  It is a pretty telling story of someone who should really have psychotherapy rather than be a &#8220;priest.&#8221;  So I tend to feel a lot of pity for these women and nothing but disdain for the men who &#8220;ordain&#8221; them.  What a lie.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaibee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaibee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 16:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"...why you and yours cannot wrap your brains around the Church having said that she does not have the authority to ordain women."

Well, quite simply because as a culture we prefer not to think.  We would rather just have people make cute, little soundbyte statements which sound good, and agree with them, so as to be on "the winning team" or "the team in favor of what is fair and non-oppressive."  Forget actually creating a real argument.  You don't need any supporting evidence.  Just speak in a compelling manner and people will follow you.

Like sheep.

Stupid sheep.

Who don't realize that they are following a false shepherd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;why you and yours cannot wrap your brains around the Church having said that she does not have the authority to ordain women.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, quite simply because as a culture we prefer not to think.  We would rather just have people make cute, little soundbyte statements which sound good, and agree with them, so as to be on &#8220;the winning team&#8221; or &#8220;the team in favor of what is fair and non-oppressive.&#8221;  Forget actually creating a real argument.  You don&#8217;t need any supporting evidence.  Just speak in a compelling manner and people will follow you.</p>
<p>Like sheep.</p>
<p>Stupid sheep.</p>
<p>Who don&#8217;t realize that they are following a false shepherd.</p>
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